Inspiring Animals - The Jaguar

We are introducing a new feature to the podcast today for our younger listeners who are eager to learn more about some of the interesting animals that we have encountered on our travels. We are calling it Inspiring Animals, and for the first episode we are featuring.... jaguars!

Our host, Kayla Windelspecht, will explain some interesting facts about jaguars, the role of the Belize Zoo in jaguar conservation, and some of the other animals that live in the rainforests with jaguars.

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Transcript

…Hey everyone Welcome back to the inspired adventures podcast. If you're just joining us I'm Michael and I'm one of the co founders of inspired adventures. In this episode today we have something really special for you. Starting last summer we began working with a group called the Outway in Springfield Illinois, which provides after school learning activities summer camps for students who are trying to build up self confidence and become better adapted to the world around them They're a pretty amazing group and we've really enjoyed working with them. And through our work with them we began to talk about building a portion of our podcast, which was designed for eight to thirteen year old learners people who are really beginning to get really interested in science and wanna know more about the world around them.
So today we're gonna go ahead and watch that We're also gonna introduce our new narrator, Kayla Wendelsbeck, who is my daughter, The Kayla's also an ecologist who has finishing up her master's degree at Colorado State University. And Kayla has been with us for a while and you probably haven't met her yet but many of our virtual tours allow the writing that happens on our site Uh
while the project management is associated with our um, a student research group in Belize, interact a lot with Kayla. I think you're gonna really enjoy this And I'm gonna introduce you to Kayla in our first inspiring animal and I'm pretty sure you're not gonna be able to guess what our first inspiring animal is going to be but we'll see…
Hi everyone I'm here today with Kayla, and Kayla is our project manager at inspired adventures. And what that means is being a project manager is that she basically does all the work behind the scenes for almost everything that happens on our websites, virtual tours. Uh she does writing for us Um she does research work, but today I'm really excited to have her with me here today to launch our inspiring animals program So before we get into inspiring animals, I want to go ahead and have Kayla introduce herself and tell us a little bit about who she is. Hi everyone. I am Kayla Wendlespect…that last name might sound a little familiar to you.
And, uh I am a biologist and ecologist…
currently working as a project manager for inspired ventures and with a history of working in science communication. This is really kind of a fun idea that we've been talking about for a long time. As biologists, one of our fun things is being able to go out and explore and learn new things. And throughout our experiences and beliefs and now and also in other parts of the world such as Portugal, we have managed to come across different animals that really have sparked our imagination okay in our in our desire to go learn things, and that's really the fun of being a biologist. And so today is probably not any surprise to anybody here on the podcast that we're going to start with one of our most inspirational animals and that of course is going to be the jaguars.
Okay The and today with the Jaguars, we're gonna learn a little bit about…why we study Jaguars and some fun facts about those So, Kayla, why Jaguars? Why why are we in love with Jaguars at IE? Uh well first of all uh what you need to know about, uh
me and my dad right now is that we're both huge cat people. So that is influencing, uh our our fascination with jaguars just a little bit. But for those of us here at IE what's really drawn us to jaguars is not just how beautiful and impressive these animals are but also how important they are for the rainforest and for the cultures of the places that they exist in. And we're going to be talking a little bit today about biology and ecology of the jaguars and also about…
how…people in jaguars interact in the places where both of them live and how people can help jaguars and how inspire adventures we hope to inspire you to be able to help the jaguars as well. That's great Kayla And I just wanna take a moment This is our first one and you are talking about Jaguar's about for each of us to kinda tell really quickly what our first experience with the Jaguar I know that you have a really good story and so do I So we'll start with you Of course Uh talking about your first real interactions with uh you know the jaguar of the rain forest? Yes So the first time I saw a jaguar in person, my father locked me in a cage, with one outside of it. Um, and…I did do that Yes Yeah…
Uh so this was actually this was at the Belizeau and Tropological Center, which are our amazing friends and partners in Belize. Uh and what they do and we might get into this a little bit more a little later on is that they have a really amazing…jaguar rehabilitation program. Uh and some of the jaguars that they work with are unable to be re released into the wild. And so they become uh, ambassadors for their species So they stay at the Belize zoo and they help to spread knowledge and education about their species and also just have people meet the jaguars. And one of the things that you can do at the Belize zoo is something called a jaguar experience.
So it isn't quite what I made it sound like a couple minutes ago. Uh, but you do get to meet the jaguars, uh relatively close-up…
uh and you're with the keepers the entire time You are not actually going in in the you were not uh face to face with a jaguar in the exhibit That would be…quite dangerous for reasons that we'll probably get into It is um always important to recognize that uh these are wild animals no matter how cute and cuddly They might look sometimes. Uh they are not they are not like our our house cats But at the Belize zoo you can see them very close-up, and this was a really amazing experience. For me to be this close to such a, again such a a beautiful and interesting animal. And that was my first experience, uh and I know dad you you have had your own experiences. With the Belize and Belize zoo jaguars as well.
Absolutely. And uh, before before we go on from that I wanna tell everybody that you are pretty much up close and personal with these jaguars You are in a metal cage inside of their enclosure with the keeper. And the jaguar is usually above you or standing around you uh
while the keeper's explaining things It's about as close as anybody would want to get to a jaguar okay in any way or form And yes I have put both of my children in those cages. Uh uh it's it's an amazing behavioral adaptation on on on their part afterwards. So anyways, uh my experience is a little bit different Um I first met junior Buddy one of the ambassadors at the Belize zoo during one of my first trips probably now well over a decade ago to the zoo. And I always wanted to be a big cat uh biologist I always wanted to be a veterinarian that worked with big cats, and life choices take you other directions. But, One of the things I would do is every time I went to the zoo I would go back The first thing I would do is go back and see junior buddy Uh he was always sitting on top of his cage and he was the master of the slow blink.
He would just sit there and give you the slowest blinks and I used to just imagine that he knew who I was okay which is silly of course But but I really became fascinated with the connections and learning about it and learning from the people at the Belize zoo. And, we decided then to start some pretty intense research programs and education programs to inspired adventures And so we're gonna talk about those a little bit today But also if you're listening today if you have any questions at any point
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I want you to go ahead and write them down and go to our website, uh and it'll be a spot for you to enter those questions. And what we'll do is on our next episode, we will go ahead and have answer some of those questions or put the questions and the answers up on our web page um for you to see those So Lots of questions from people. Jag Wars are amazing creatures We're all fascinated by them And so now Kayla and I are just gonna talk a little bit about…some of these things And Kayla you really have…a very close knowledge of our of our research projects with regards to uh jaguars because you manage all of our camera trap programs. So why don't you go ahead and just tell us a little bit about why do people use camera traps, okay to study jaguars…
Yeah So there are a lot of different reasons that, uh camera trap projects can be really useful for studying really any kind of wildlife, but for us for jaguars in particular, they've been, uh a very very interesting project. And first of all the the cameras that we're using, uh are…trail cameras. So how they work is basically that whenever, uh something breaks the field of vision it will take a series of…three photographs. And we started this project back in twenty seventeen was when we started our our first uh our first cameras And
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At the time we really had no idea what we were going to get off of it We really just uh put some cameras out, uh, just to see what we would get And uh what's also very interesting to note about these camera traps is that we did not put them miles and miles into the rainforest. They are actually quite close to, uh to where humans live Um and we were really blown away by how much we were able to
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see in how much there really was there so close to the edges of the rainforest. And there were a few things that we saw that we had no idea…what they were Um we had a few…adjustments we had to make uh especially with…how the cameras were positioned I remember our first few batches we would see, uh the backs of some animals or uh just tails sticking straight up into frame and we had no idea what any of that was So we did have to go back and readjust a little bit It was a bit of a learning curve But what we also saw was that we started to see jaguars and not just jaguars, but also…uh animals that could be prey of jaguars and we also started to see some of the other wild cats of belize And this was really really interesting to us because it showed that these animals, these different wildcat species and in belize there are there are five wildcat species There are jaguars, Pumas also known in the United States as mountain lions. Uh there's Jagorundis…
uh ocelots and margays, and we have information about these species up on our website If you're curious to know what exactly a margay is and we might be talking about uh some of them in future episodes. But what we were really interested in seeing was that four of these species, um, which were the jaguars the pumas, the ocelots and the Jagarindez…were, in some cases sharing some of the same habitats We saw them in the same places at…pretty uh close times to each other and we were uh very very interested in seeing that and then starting to try to figure out how these animals might be coexisting…with one another. And the That's pretty rare isn't it That's pretty rare to find big prey species in the same area with each other Isn't it? Yeah…
Uh well it was interesting when we were going in to try to figure out how that might happen And…yeah. One of our co founders professor Dave Cox actually uh talks about this at some length and some educational videos he's made for us uh for our jaguar week program. And essentially how this can work is that…these…predators can…coexist together for a bunch of different factors Some of them is that…
the larger cats, especially are very territorial…for members of their own species And so it's possible that their territories are just overlapping a bit But the…
but the main reason is that they can focus on different prey species. So for jaguars and pumas which are uh around the same size jaguars are are larger They are the largest, uh, wild cats of the rainforest in in Central America. But they do share some important prey species, but uh if, say the jaguar is focusing mainly on hunting, let's say, uh javelinas or uh, uh peccaries as they're also known, uh or smaller animals, like like give nuts and agoutis which are these uh, kind of uh large rodent species that do make up some significant portions of large cats diets And we can say that the the pumas might be focusing a little bit of a different prey species Maybe the pumas are focusing on the white tailed deer that are in the area, then they're not directly competing for food with one another And of course the the smaller…species such as the ocelots and the Jagger run days are focusing on on different food as well So if you are a smaller species like an like an ocelot you probably don't want to meet a jaguar You probably don't want to run into one And even if you're a puma you probably don't want to run into a jaguar either The jaguar is not going to eat you but it would probably be a bit of an unpleasant confrontation. Uh
so all of these species are able to exist in the same area but mostly stay out of each other's way And this tells us a lot about the species richness of these areas of the rainforest, not just in the predators but also in the prey species. And it can tell us about the health of the rainforest. Uh and the other reason the big reason…that these camera traps are so interesting to us is that they allow us to actually identify…different jaguars. So jaguars…
are interesting in that their spot patterns, their spots are also called rosettes. These spot patterns are completely unique to each individual jaguar. Uh they've often been likened to a human fingerprint They're that unique. So through collecting…
years and years of, uh this camera trap data we were able to start looking at these photos and start trying to match up the spot patterns. And this can be a little bit difficult. Uh, some of our photos are taken in the day Some of them are taken at night Uh some of them are taken from one angle instead of another especially when we first started out We only really had…one…camera set up in in each uh at each location, and it wasn't until later that we started putting a camera, uh facing the the other directions that we could get photos from both sides at the same time which has been very helpful in identification. Uh…
so we were able to look at again, several years of of these camera photos collected in the same places and start to match up the spots. On our jaguars that we've seen. And we have a a breakdown of this up on our website of how we went in and identified these spots, but one of the really interesting things that we were to identify actually two different interesting things We were able to find…one jack wire uh a male jack wire…that we were able to track as being in the same area for for at least several years. The other really interesting things is that we were able to see that there were a few photos…of jaguars that these spot patterns did not match up So we were able to see that there were at least a couple jaguars…in the the same area at the same time And this is very interesting getting a little bit into the, uh biology and social behavior of jack wires because jack wires unlike, big cats such as lions or other animals like wolves. Jaguars are very very solitary species.
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, the only time that you'll really see, uh more than one Jaguar living together is when it's a mother in her cup. And the uh young jaguars will stay with the mother for a little while until they reach maturity and then they'll actually leave and they'll go off and establish their own territories. So this was a really really interesting thing to see these jaguars kind of being in the same area And when we looked into this, uh, we were able to research a bit about jaguar uh, territories and ask some of the the experts, uh living in in Belize and working at the Belize zoo, uh who are really experts in in Jaguar Biology and, uh social behavior. And…
jaguars while they are very solitary, uh sometimes their territories…do overlap with one another This is most common or theorists to be most common, but uh with male and female jaguars where a male jaguars tear worry might slightly overlap, uh with several other female jaguars territory, or sometimes jaguars move, and they can move through large areas establishing their own territories, changing their territories, as the rain forest around them changes. And this is something that we will get into as well of why…things like uh habitat fragmentation and habitat degradation are so harmful to, uh, larger predator species such as jaguars and what people are doing to try to uh help that and to try to preserve, uh these territories for jaguars…
Wow I have a whole ton of questions I'm hoping everybody does So let's just start off with the fact that you know, it is very difficult You know everybody always says when I bring groups down there you know are we gonna see a jaguar in the woods today And I just laugh and say no I hope not Okay. Um, but more what more important is from our from our camera trap data as we know what times and days these were there. And I can look to the students I'm down there with and say there was a Jagar here last week at this time while we're standing here So even though we're not gonna see a Jagar, I can almost guarantee you that a Jagar is seeing us right now Okay And they're very seclusive animals. Um and it allows me you know the that allows us to see the things that we can't see because we are wowed primates moving through a jungle Okay And nothing wants to interact with us at all Yes. No wild animal enjoys interacting with us in any way So Yes What we've been told as well uh
when we're down in Belize is that uh when we're in the rain forest the jaguars know where we are and they really don't want anything to do with us There have been very few cases of Jaguar's attacking humans and this is largely, uh if Jaguars are cornered by humans um they're really not aggressive towards people. Uh, this does get a little bit into a Jaguar hunting. Techniques, um jack wires are ambush predators. And so what they do is that they, largely, they they will drop onto onto their prey and they have some of the…
strongest bite force in their jaws of any cat any wild cat in the world. And what they will do is…bite…directly through the, uh the back of the skull and the back of the neck And this is a very very efficient way to kill prey. And this might sound a bit scary, but uh a jaguar is not going to do that to a human Uh a jaguar does not want to hunt a human. Uh we are actually a bit too big for them uh first of all and also just because uh, we are very loud and noisy and the jack wires really want to stay away from us as much as possible. And this is why when you see or when you hear about jaguars that are…coming into conflict with humans And when I say coming into conflict this uh, usually means jaguars that are coming near human habitation usually to hunt livestock.
Uh this is usually a sign that there's actually something wrong with that jack wire That jack wire might be sick It might be too old to go after its normal prey. It might be injured. And this is where we get into, uh
the belize zoo jaguar conservation and rehabilitation program, uh where all of the jaguars that they've…found uh they they don't go out and and you know get a jaguar just to have it in the zoo All of their jaguars are are rescues. And a lot of them are from this jaguar conflict program where they spread word to people saying hey, if you if you think that a jaguar might be…hunting your livestock And this can be of course a big problem for for people whose livelihoods depend on their livestock. Uh the Belizee will say don't go out and try to to kill the jack wire let us know and we'll come and try to to remove it We'll come and try to trap it and see what the problem is. And the belize zoo, um, a lot of the jaguars that they have they have jaguars that…
uh have been injured by, uh gunshots. They have jack wires that um are missing an eye. Um they have jack wires that were uh rescued as cubs and so are too habituated to humans. And these are all jaguars that in many cases cannot be re released, uh because they would not be able…to uh have a normal jaguar life in the rainforest They would not be able to go after their normal prey…
And so instead they stay in the belize zoo and they're taken care of by the by the really dedicated staff there. Um and again they can become these animal ambassadors. And, If anyone is interested in learning more about these jaguars or meeting these jaguars, um, please look into our…virtual tour, uh opportunities where we can bring you live to the belize zoo and you can talk with a member of the staff of the Belize zoo and these keepers who take care of of these really amazing jack wires and learn about what they do and how they do it and get to meet some of these some of these cats live. And I gotta tell you that is one of the most inspiring thing when you get a chance to see these rescued jaguars You know that's not this the Belize Zoo really is a conservation center They're great partners for us and those experiences by which you see some of these jaguar's cheeky, Ben you know um Martin, uh Lindau okay that are been given a second chance at life That is truly inspiring And they are they are amazing animals And they're not trained Okay Um
they're not you know they're not they're not kitty cats They still are very wild animals. Um, it's very inspirational to do that So I wanna get into a couple other quick things here And, of course like I said everybody do have questions please feel free to ask them and we will definitely get those answered on the web page or on our next episode But, you know you said something before about not just Jaguars, but one of the fun thing about using camera traps to look for jaguars is the other things you get. Right Jaguars are always our exciting thing Whenever we get new cards in we always like we scan them all for jaguars I mean it's always like jaguar It's like it's like Christmas Right We're gonna go find you know Christmas presenters a tree something But in this case we're looking for jaguars, but often we have as biologists, those moments when we're looking at something on the camera at a picture and we're looking and going I have no idea. What that is And that is the most…
fun thing about being a biologist in this program I mean that that sense of discovery And so…I remember the first time we saw a Jagarinde…
Yes. Yes. Or a or a terra um which is kinda like a a very big weasel. And uh we we had to go back and forth with some of our partners and beliefs of of sending them pictures We run into this with birds a lot So uh, unfortunately, none of the people at inspired ventures are bird biologist. We are all very amateurs in in this uh in this scenario.
So it is always interesting when we see a new bird on our camera traps and we have to sit there and just try to flip through all the guidebooks trying to figure out what that thing is. Um another one that, uh that…was a very fun mystery um that I mentioned a little earlier that sometimes all we could see was the tail of an animal What we saw a lot early on were these very skinny striped tails sticking straight up into frame and nothing else We could not see anything else of the animal and this drove us crazy for a while. And when we first saw them we were looking at them like, are those raccoons? Are those raccoon pails? Uh
both of us are from the Eastern United States and that was the closest thing that we could think of uh to a match of it Um, and it turns out that they were actually what's uh called coatis or um Queta Mondays, uh and which are in fact related to, um, related to raccoons. But there are these these little kind of raccoon like creatures and they kind of walk around in groups. So what we would see on the camera traps uh before we kind of adjusted them to uh adjusted a couple of our cameras to kind of point lower down so we would finally be able to figure out what these things looked like. Uh we would just see you know six or seven tails sticking straight up moving right across the right across the camera's point of view. Um and so that so that's kind of the the uh, fun…the really fun parts of working, uh on this trail camera project is that uh like I said we've been working on this since twenty seventeen and we're still surprised by some of the things that we've seen.
More recently we were able to see a uh
mot Mot which is a a little bird, um that kept flying back and forth across just this one camera We've got probably fifty pictures of this one little bird, um and we had never seen it before. And we've seen a lot on our camera traps One of the things that we've never seen I did mention that there's five, uh, wild cat species in Belize and we've only ever seen four of them on our camera The one that we've never seen is the Margae. And the Margas are the smallest cats and they also spend almost their entire lives up in the branches of trees. And so we've tried you know adjusting the cameras We've tried pointing them up at the treetops and we have yet to see a Margate So that's a little bit of our um our white whale a little bit or at least one of them We we all have kind of a list of things that we really that we know are in the rain forest that we really want to see. Um but just haven't haven't had the chance to actually catch on camera yet But for me I would really like to see a Margay uh
, just to to to check that off the list But uh not yet but here's hoping. Yeah We're getting better at that We really are And I think that that's a lot of the fun is being able to do that and find that that that discovery aspect of it Um if any of you who are listening wanted to see some of these animals if you go to our YouTube channel we have a couple of videos up there uh animals of the Ablesian rainforest, for example Um we have lots of articles up there which we should talk about that. Uh and we do have some videos of Margese where we had to kind of cheat a little bit and actually go inside their cage at the Belize zoo while I was there and take some take some videos of them But so we do have some of them But okay now that we're talking about things we want to get, Okay This is this is this is where where you're like could be something interesting. So…
in Belize, okay um there are okay We do know there are uh black jaguars. Okay. And, uh they they're kind of how I'll have almost like a mythical basis to them Like everybody's seen a black jaguar. Okay But nobody's ever photographed a black jaguar Right So so…being of being you know being who you are and you're working with this stuff, they're not mythical Are they They are they're real. No Yes.
Uh uh black jaguars are very real I believe there was actually one a few years back at the bully Zoo…
But, uh they're they're very rare So black jaguars, uh they're sometimes called black Panthers which can be very confusing because this is also a term used for black leopards over in uh, in Africa Uh so they're completely different species but they are sometimes referred to by by the same term uh just just to make it confusing for us. But black jaguars, uh a black jaguar has essentially a a condition called melanism…Uh and melanin is, uh we have melanin Humans have melanin, uh and it's what uh gives pigment to, uh your hair and your skin. And jack wires and really many many other animals also have melanin pigments in…
uh their fur And so when the these pigments are overproduced, it it results in a black jaguar. Uh and black jaguars actually do still have spots if you get close enough to one which…would be very very difficult But if you see a photograph that's very close to one you can actually see that their spots are just very slightly darker than the rest of their first They do still have these spot patterns It's just much much harder to see. Um but for many animals and especially many big cats having this…
much much darker for color, uh could be really a disadvantage, especially if you think about, uh cats that are living in grasslands or on the plains uh and don't really have as much cover You can see how this would be a kind of anti camouflage for them So one of the theories about black jack wires is that they're thought to be more common. Uh they're they're never extremely common. But they're thought to be more common in rain forest environments and especially in deep rain forest environments…where the darker pigmentation…
uh could really uh, help with camouflage or at least not be harmful. With camouflage. So…this is really interesting but it's also as you can imagine makes them a bit harder to find because if they're deep deep deep in the rainforest, uh this that's somewhere that, uh we are probably not going to be able to find them very easily. So right now and I know uh, dad you probably know a little bit more about this than than I do but there are some very interesting rumors of, people actually near, uh one of the spots where we've set up, uh some of our camera traps who, uh who claimed to have seen uh a black jack wire in that area…
relatively recently. And so of course we're we're very very interested in this and we would love more than anything to be able to see a black jaguar on a trail camera That would be a really really amazing…
a really amazing opportunity. So again not quite yet We don't as of this recording we do not have any pictures of a black jaguar, but uh here's hoping you know we're gonna keep our fingers crossed and…
try to try to move some of our trail cameras around and try to position them where we can hopefully, uh, maybe catch a glimpse of of this really rare creature. I'd absolutely love to And we do we are looking into those reports. You know it's…kinda like you know people saying they've seen things but a lot of these reports are fairly reputable, okay and come from farmers who would definitely know what they were looking at Uh and so we need to get cameras out there and we're working on that But that is really uh black Jag guard would just be that or a margay right now would just be absolutely absolutely amazing to us You know we've got Pumas We got Jagarinde's…ossalates everywhere It seems Oh we're we're bored of those by now I know I'm bored I'm terrible Yeah. Like I said if you're listening there's lots of these pictures up on the websites as well You can go see the differences between them. Well Kayla I think we're about out of time And so one of the things I wanna do is first of all uh
, tell you how you can learn a little bit more about this. First of all not only through our web page, uh but there are some organizations in Belize which actually work very closely with Jaguars such as Panthera. Uh there's a Panthera Belize group and there's also the Belize Zoo and tropical Education Center. Which has a very very large program and has information on their human Jaguar conflict program. Here at IE we are working very closely with the Belize Zoo to build a new facility for…these…jaguars which have become into conflict with people.
And that's called our habitats for Jags program. You can learn about that on our website as well and see how you can get learn uh get more involved But if nothing else just learning and asking questions about these jaguars is really um unbelievably important. We also have some amazing people we work with down there and uh eat uh in Belize, such as the Belize zoo um, such as some of our um other partners our Azari Beliz uh which is one of our resorts we work with um
sleeping giant resorts, um on the Saboon River as well. These people have been very very helpful in helping us set up cameras and maintain them We have excellent guides Okay Um, down there uh Harrison who works with uh classic expeditions, Belize is our is our go to guide into into the jungle. So what I'm getting at here is that if you wanna study Jaguars Okay I I'm excited because I can do it now and I hope Kayla is too But it really comes down to these partnerships, you know and so there's all different ways you can do this You can get involved and learn about these things And and, uh hopefully we've generated some questions…
that you may have that we can come back and answer for you So And if we can't answer the questions uh if if we're not able to answer any of your questions we will, uh ask our partners in Belize who do know, as far as I can tell literally everything there is to know about about dog fires and really any other rainforest creatures. So uh no matter how, uh uh specific or detailed your question is uh please send these in and we will do um absolutely our best to either answer it ourselves or probably more likely uh refer it to the experts and and let you know what they say Yeah Absolutely And I encourage you to do that It'd be so much fun If you're doing school projects for example and you wanna do it on Jaguars please just get in touch this We'd love to talk to you and see what see what you're doing. If you're doing a school project and you maybe want access to some of these trail camera pictures we have worked with, uh schools and colleges to, do projects with looking at at our trail camera pictures before and we would be happy to talk about that. Absolutely. Well I think it's gonna wrap it up for today with our first inspiring animals.
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I know okay that I'm very happy to build it to ring you the Jaguars. I think that our next episode though we're gonna make a little bit of a change Okay We're gonna still talk about something in the rainforest but we're gonna we're gonna go for the birds this time Right So which are we gonna work with Kayla? Yeah I think next episode we're going to be talking about a a very special bird uh called the orange breasted falcon, uh and this will be uh talking about our partnership with the Belize Raptor Center who have worked very closely with these birds. And uh, the conservation story of these birds because in Belize they are actually very very rare and very endangered. We'll be talking about not just the biology of the orange breasted falcons but also, uh how people in Belize are are trying to save these birds from essentially localized extinction.
That's right And you're gonna really enjoy interacting with the people from the police raptor Center warning about them as well Very very special people there. Well thank you everyone I'm looking forward to seeing your questions. Kayla have anything else to say? No Uh
I'm looking forward to the questions as well and uh thank you for for having me on to uh, talk about to talk about Jaguars today I always I always love to. Oh it's our highlights to talk about Jag Wars What a great way to start a season and I think you're gonna enjoy what we're doing for the rest of this season as well So thank you everyone and we will be with you soon.